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toonloon
2nd July 2007, 01:14 PM
hi,
can anyone help?
i need a quote for installation of a motorised dish!

i have a 90cm dish and a humax 5400 (thinkin of upgradin to a technomate 1500)
so i need an lnb, bracket (pole) and motor.all to be installed!

i live approx 16 miles north of newcastle

any help would be appreciated

cheers

cannydanny
6th July 2007, 10:36 AM
hi, my suggestion would be have ago at it yourself, its really not that difficult once you begin to understand how the dish tracks the arc, i'm no expert but i've managed to move my motorised dish to different locations about 4 times. if you can i would also mount the dish on the groundm much easier 2 realign should the wind blow it off track.

fredy4skin
6th July 2007, 10:57 AM
hi, my suggestion would be have ago at it yourself, its really not that difficult once you begin to understand how the dish tracks the arc, i'm no expert but i've managed to move my motorised dish to different locations about 4 times. if you can i would also mount the dish on the groundm much easier 2 realign should the wind blow it off track. I agree with Candyman look at a sky dish near you you need to find thor at 1%w its west of the sky dish once your pole is erected make sure its straight and the dish is all in a straight line then by moving the dish from side to side starting with a high elavation keep droping slowly each time you move it left to right the freq; to start is 11325 h 24500 BBC World this is a strong sig when you get BBC world put freq; 12643 h 27500 then when you have 12643 = chl u tighten all brackets and then start to move dish with you sat receiver and all sats from east to west should be ok you may have to tweek ye dish slightly good look m8

Skytel
6th July 2007, 11:10 AM
Toonloon is asking for a installer not help in installing
i feel we should not be telling him to do it himself.If he felt he was capable of doing this he would have asked for this help.

skytel

sheffalite
6th July 2007, 01:59 PM
Hi Skytel,
I think that your reply is a little harsh mate these guys are just trying to put him in the right direction. I also have sent him a pm telling him to try to fit it himself If i was nearer him then that is what i would av done fitted it for him ,but i think there is enough experiance on this site to talk him through it.
regards sheffalite

Skytel
6th July 2007, 03:06 PM
How do you know he is physically able,not scared of heights,not got the tools or other reasons,not saying this particular member is.
to me and maybe you we can and able to do this with ease, but don,t assume everyone is as lucky as us that is what i am trying to say.
being a installer myself i see lots of reason people don,t or cant install themselves.
Believe me i would be the first to help if he asked for that type of help
If you look in the other sections this will show you that

skytel

fredy4skin
7th July 2007, 10:22 AM
Where do you live in the north east if i live near you i could help you out send me a p.m

fearona
7th July 2007, 10:34 AM
Lets wait and see if he fancies fitting it himself. I see no problem with recommending that route. He may have asked for installer as he may think fitting it himself is beyond him.

pip
8th July 2007, 12:39 PM
hello
i live about 9 miles s/e of newcastle. my dish is mounted on the ground i have set up my own dish 2 or 3 times. i have a tm 1500 setup. i may be able to help you as i have transport. i do not work so have plenty time. it really is not to difficult to do. "exactly" [most important verticle mounting pole] maybe a compass would help think i have one somewhere. lt can be quite expensive to get it done professionally, last quote i got was 140.00 + and that was a while ago. if i can help i will. look for my privave message to you
regards pip

corrieburt
8th July 2007, 01:14 PM
hi i am 80 years old and set up my dish myself,i got a rigger toput a bracket and pole up then did the rest i set the dish to south then set the deinclination this is most important,swich your reciver on and get thor, from there move it very slightly to the west to get thor at 1degree west till the signall is about ninety then tighten everything up,and the others should be ok,you will get plenty of help from the other guys on the forum if you have any trouble

corrieburt

toonloon
8th July 2007, 01:50 PM
:clapping:thanks for all the replys and pm's

i live in ashington,as for sat installers i have phoned 2.one quoted me £300-£350!!which i cant justify to the wife and the other one failed to phone me back???

i could probably do the work but its the doubt factor for me(t seems a bit daunting to tell the truth).im am not the exactly the best handyman in the world!(more chance of me knocking my house down than getting the dish setup).

al_the _mag has given me a number of the bloke who installed his so i'll give him a ring on monday to see if he can do it.if not i might take the advice of some forum members and give it a go myself.

once again i thank each and everyone of you for the time and effort into your reply's.this has to be one of the best forums going for freindly advice:winner_se

cheers toonloon

<<sat12345>>
8th July 2007, 04:25 PM
I understand what your saying but try yourself and if you can't do it get the experts in then

toonloon
8th July 2007, 06:55 PM
i know this isnt the place to ask but.....
what lnb and motor should i buy..
as stated i have the hummy 5400 but im likely to upgrade to a techomate 1500. will any motor and lnb work with these 2 boxes?

cheers

leesouthnufc
8th July 2007, 08:38 PM
i live about two miles away from u m8 .. a motor will give you more sats . you can loop in and out of recivers .. but basicly you will get most channels with the tm 1500 beter supported ,.. p s what do you use your humax for .. i am not famiular with this box :happy:

johnnewhouse
15th July 2007, 09:17 PM
hi Toonloon,
i am also thinking about getting a motorised setup, but the thing that worries me is putting it up myself. i have never done anything like that before, but i am not unhandy, and can do math (which seems to be important).
i think once i have had a bash i may understand what everyone is saying, in that is better to do yourself, but if i get it wrong, then i will end up having to get someone in to fix my mess.:help:

if you do get yours up and fancy a go at someone elses, then i am just 5 miles south (cramlington) :coolthumb
any advice on the whole process would be beneficial

frankg4553
15th July 2007, 09:53 PM
:clapping:thanks for all the replys and pm's

i live in ashington,as for sat installers i have phoned 2.one quoted me £300-£350!!which i cant justify to the wife and the other one failed to phone me back???

i could probably do the work but its the doubt factor for me(t seems a bit daunting to tell the truth).im am not the exactly the best handyman in the world!(more chance of me knocking my house down than getting the dish setup).

al_the _mag has given me a number of the bloke who installed his so i'll give him a ring on monday to see if he can do it.if not i might take the advice of some forum members and give it a go myself.

once again i thank each and everyone of you for the time and effort into your reply's.this has to be one of the best forums going for freindly advice:winner_se

cheers toonloon

Toonloon...I'm about to get my first set-up and am going to ground mount it in the garden.
I felt the same as you at first about getting someone in to do it for me, then I started reading the forums and asking questions of all these good people and to be quite honest I don't think there's much to the physical side of setting up the system.
For me this involves getting a heavy duty 'adjustable' ground stand which bolts down to paving slabs....so the problem of the vertical pole is sorted because it's adjustable! Then I'll have to bury the cable under my lawn in plastic pipe and run it over to the garage and house....again not hard!
Then connect up to the receiver...well if you can plug a telly in, that's sorted :biggrin:

Then comes the only part which may be a little more difficult ...setting up the dish for the satellites...but!!....there is so much information on this forum about how to do this as well as scanning in of sats and channels, I don't think that will stop me for too long, and if it does I'll turn to the forum for advice......give it a go...I'm looking forward to it.
Failing that, give the instruction book to the wife and tell her to get on with it whilst she's cooking the tea....they always say they're good at multi-tasking :biggrin::biggrin:

Frank

Skytel
15th July 2007, 09:56 PM
Toonloon...I'm about to get my first set-up and am going to ground mount it in the garden.
I felt the same as you at first about getting someone in to do it for me, then I started reading the forums and asking questions of all these good people and to be quite honest I don't think there's much to the physical side of setting up the system.
For me this involves getting a heavy duty 'adjustable' ground stand which bolts down to paving slabs....so the problem of the vertical pole is sorted because it's adjustable! Then I'll have to bury the cable under my lawn in plastic pipe and run it over to the garage and house....again not hard!
Then connect up to the receiver...well if you can plug a telly in, that's sorted :biggrin:

Then comes the only part which may be a little more difficult ...setting up the dish for the satellites...but!!....there is so much information on this forum about how to do this as well as scanning in of sats and channels, I don't think that will stop me for too long, and if it does I'll turn to the forum for advice......give it a go...I'm looking forward to it.
Failing that, give the instruction book to the wife and tell her to get on with it whilst she's cooking the tea....they always say they're good at multi-tasking :biggrin::biggrin:

Frank

pheewww sounds harder than it actually is. :biggrin::biggrin:

leesouthnufc
15th July 2007, 10:05 PM
you have to have perfect line of site to ground mount ,,p s i have nt .. got mine up high on gable end only way i can recieve 42 east to 30 west .. its also bloody heavy humping a big dish up high .. . and akward .. good luck anyway . read and learn and save ...:coolthumbwith a bit of luck ..

frankg4553
15th July 2007, 10:19 PM
:clapping:thanks for all the replys and pm's

i live in ashington,as for sat installers i have phoned 2.one quoted me £300-£350!!which i cant justify to the wife and the other one failed to phone me back???

i could probably do the work but its the doubt factor for me(t seems a bit daunting to tell the truth).im am not the exactly the best handyman in the world!(more chance of me knocking my house down than getting the dish setup).

al_the _mag has given me a number of the bloke who installed his so i'll give him a ring on monday to see if he can do it.if not i might take the advice of some forum members and give it a go myself.

once again i thank each and everyone of you for the time and effort into your reply's.this has to be one of the best forums going for freindly advice:winner_se

cheers toonloon

Also, get the GorbTrack program (google it) to help you on dish location with regards to obstacles between dish and sat which may block the signals. There's another called 'Satellite Antenna Alignment'...much the same but each have good points.

Frank

Frank

rickyt
16th July 2007, 07:51 PM
I live near Widdrington and know Ashington well and have fitted quite a few motorised sytems but only old polar mounts and mainly Jeager 128's using separate positioners .I have all the gear and would be willing to lend a hand if you need help . You'll need a south facing wall with no obsticles in the way for a kick off [ like trees & tall buildings]. I have both the 5400 & TM1500 and the TM is way , way better and is ideal for going motorised [get it here at Alsat's]. For buying your better off using the internet than going to local shops , although there is some shops close by you could use to check prices . You could PM me for any info

toonloon
17th July 2007, 10:57 AM
cheers everyone,
im back at work now so its getting the time to do it.
i'll be ordering the motor,lnb and bracket hopefully this weekend!.im then away till the start of august when i should be off work for a couple of weeks.so i'll make this my holiday project.
rickyt i might be givin u a call mate for some advice if thats ok?

i like the sound of the ground mount but unfortuneatly i have 2 young sons who wreck everything in the garden!!!!

johnewhouse if i get mine up ok then im more than willing to come over t crammy and give you a hand!

whats the best motor and lnb t get for this???? anyone.there is that many and im not sure if they are universal??? i want t get my hummy up and running before i buy a technomate just t keep the cost down a bit(sacrificin kids hols for this so shhhhhhh!)

cheers all

frankg4553
17th July 2007, 04:43 PM
cheers everyone,
im back at work now so its getting the time to do it.
i'll be ordering the motor,lnb and bracket hopefully this weekend!.im then away till the start of august when i should be off work for a couple of weeks.so i'll make this my holiday project.
rickyt i might be givin u a call mate for some advice if thats ok?

i like the sound of the ground mount but unfortuneatly i have 2 young sons who wreck everything in the garden!!!!

johnewhouse if i get mine up ok then im more than willing to come over t crammy and give you a hand!

whats the best motor and lnb t get for this???? anyone.there is that many and im not sure if they are universal??? i want t get my hummy up and running before i buy a technomate just t keep the cost down a bit(sacrificin kids hols for this so shhhhhhh!)

cheers all

Toon...try razorwire around your ground mount....that'll keep the little blighters off it :biggrin::biggrin:


Frank

rickyt
18th July 2007, 05:58 PM
No prob's m8
I see theres plenty of choice in the way of LNB's now , the last one I bought 2 years ago was a 0.3db , but I see theres 0.2db .You just need a single .
Not too sure about the motors . I've always had a separate positioner and prefer this method .It's independant of what receiver I have ,is still remote control and links to any 36v motor & does it's job well . HTH

silver.fox1969
21st July 2007, 07:20 AM
Installing a Motorised Satellite System
DiSEqC & USALS Compatible Motors


*Select your installation site carefully!!!
*There must be a clear line of sight between the required satellites and the entire surface of the dish. The line of sight must be free from obstructions, such as trees, roof tiles etc.
*It is very important to make sure the HH motor is fixed to a perfectly vertical mast. Time spent geting this accurate could save you hours later on.
*If the HH motor shaft is not at zero degrees (0 reference), you should get it back to zero degrees by connecting the receiver to the motor. The receiver must be ON for the HH Motor to move. It’s easier to do this before placing the H-H Motor onto the mast. Once you have done this, the HH Motor should then be disconnected from the receiver. HH Motors are usually set to zero degrees by default from the factory.
*Fit the H-H Motor onto the mast and do the nuts up finger tight.
*Set the elevation angle for the motor. This angle should be equal to the latitude value of the installation location.The LNBF arm, dish clamp, HH Motor, and mast must all be on the same straight line facing TRUE SOUTH
*Fit the dish on the H-H Motor shaft and tighten the nuts. The middle of the dish clamp must be lined up with the centre line on the H-H Motor arm.
*Using your setup menu select Thor @ 1w
*Rotate the motor on the mast and adjust the dish elevation angle to peak the signal.
*Tighten the nuts on the HH Motor clamp attached to the supporting pole.

By following the above instructions accurately, you should now have installed your motor to within +/- 1 degree of true south.



Testing your installation:

*Re-connect the receiver to the H-H Motor.
*Now you can either use USALS (easier) or DiSEqC 1.2 to move and align your dish.

When setting up satellites ensure you are using an active Transponder
Check Lingsat.com for Transponders

Using USALS

*With a USALS compliant receiver, you can use the USALS feature to easily locate the satellites.
*In the USALS (or DiSEqC) menu, enter your Latitude (##.# N) and your Longitude (###.# W).
Enter your postcode in Streetmap.co.uk and it will show your Lat and Long near the bottom of screen
*Select a satellites such as Hotbird @13e
*Select MOVE or goto
*The Motor will now move the dish to where the satellite is.
*When the motor stops, check the signal meter on your TV screen
*If you no or low signal, then the your dish/motor alignment is off.

1.With the dish aimed at 13e, start by adjusting your TRUE South . Move the whole assembly East/West a few degrees very very slowly.
2.If you still don't see a Quality bar, adjust the dish elevation 1 degree up/down at a time
3.Do not change the motor elevation.
4.When you get the maximum quality, tighten the motor on the mast.
5.Scan the satellite for channels. When the scan is completed, move the dish (using USALS) to another satellite and verify that YOU ARE GETTING A GOOD SIGNAL AS WELL. If not, your TRUE SOUTH must be off.

yossarian31
22nd July 2007, 08:39 PM
if your still after a fitter i have sent you a pm with the details of the guy who put mine up. If i remember it cost 60 quid which i didn't think was bad but then i was scared to get up the ladder, plus my house is three storeys so its scarily high

dwhite32
24th July 2007, 07:44 AM
if your still after a fitter i have sent you a pm with the details of the guy who put mine up. If i remember it cost 60 quid which i didn't think was bad but then i was scared to get up the ladder, plus my house is three storeys so its scarily high

Hi mate if at all possible can you pm me with the details as well. I am thinking about getting a 1meter motorised dish. I live in Cramlington.CheersDave

neil306
31st July 2007, 06:54 AM
if anyone still needing installs doing i live in durham area and have installed loads of systems would be pleased to help anyone out pm me if you need help

leesouthnufc
31st July 2007, 07:27 AM
if your still after a fitter i have sent you a pm with the details of the guy who put mine up. If i remember it cost 60 quid which i didn't think was bad but then i was scared to get up the ladder, plus my house is three storeys so its scarily high
60 quid to fit motorised system god i get more than that for a simple aerial ..... make sure you get a reciept .. i bet you don t ...

drongo22
4th August 2007, 03:51 PM
60 quid to fit motorised system god i get more than that for a simple aerial ..... make sure you get a reciept .. i bet you don t ...

A reciept means very little in the world of satellite/aerial installations! All it proves is that the work was paid for, it does not act as a guarantee for the work. If a installation fails after a couple of weeks, the old chestnut excuses of 'OH, somebody/something/wind/weather caused it to move, just another few ££££ and i'll repair it!' appear. Sorry to sound cynical, just from personal experience :schmoll:

emma1
9th September 2007, 04:58 PM
need help looking for some one in the teesside area :help::help::help:

emma1
19th September 2007, 09:19 AM
my dish is mounted on the ground also looking to move it having no luck finding a regestered installer in my area:eek:

toonloon
19th September 2007, 09:09 PM
its taking a long time but i've actually managed to fit my system up with a motor by myself.
it was a bit daunting but i took the plunge and managed it.
there was a few hiccups but the amount of knowledge and help on this forum is amazing and i got it up and running.

cheers everyone.

toonloon
19th September 2007, 09:14 PM
emma pm a member called belchie.im sure he knows the number of someone i the boro area...if not have a go yourself if you can.its not that bad to do

good luck

p.s belchie i hope you dont mind